Some "Jews" Still Don't Get It
This man right here
calls himself a Rabbi. His name is Marc Gellman and I will never do him the honor of calling him Rabbi again.
This man right here calls himself half of the G-d Squad on WABC Radio, but occasionally appears on television spouting what he calls HIS faith along with the other half of the squad, a Catholic Priest, Monsignor Thomas Hartman.
Only once have I seen him appear in public with a Kippa on his head. NEVER have I heard anything so insulting to Zion as what he said Sunday night during an appearance with his Siamese Twin and an IMAM on Geraldo Rivera's Show on Fox.
I don't usually watch Rivera because he's wayyy too left for me. Anyone who could appear to swoon in ecstacy at an audience with Yassir Arafat just can't get a real vote of confidence from me. But there was an ugly bombing in Tel Aviv on Shabbos night, and Geraldo was doing his show live from the nightclub where IDF Reservists had been killed waiting in line with their girlfriends and wives by a bestial suicide bomber from hell, otherwise known as Islamic Jihad.
Cache was on the phone and suddenly I began shouting...very loudly and very vociferously. Guess it shocked him because until then, I had been pretty mellow. I had walking pneumonia and wasn't feeling very well so we were just talking until...
Geraldo did some kind of update on the Pope's health and on camera, back in NYC, appeared this Imam, robed and turbanned, Marc Gellman sans Kippa, in suit and crooked bowtie, and Mr. Priest with his collar 'round his neck.Gellman looked downright unkempt, but okay. Sometimes we all have a bad hair day. No big thing.
Geraldo finishes his *update* and asks the three representatives of gawd for their thoughts.
So the Imam, (gag me with a spoon,) says "We are all praying for the Pope. He is a man of peace. We need him to stay and not to go now. We are all praying for him."
And I thought , "Yeah. Right."
Then Geraldo asks the Gellman for HIS thoughts. Mr. M. Gellman is very lucky that the TV and a few hundred miles separated us, because I swear I would have slapped him hard enough to make him see spots until next Tuesday.
THAT man JUSTIFIED the attack by Ben Gurion on the Altalena. I don't know where it came from. No one was speaking about the Altalena. It could not have been further off topic than if he would just have said it was a lovely day in New York.
He SAID, "When Israel was a fledgling State, some hard choices had to be made. When a ship arrived in tel Aviv carrying Zionist Extremists, Ben Gurion had to make the hard choice to fire on the ship to make sure that Israel would be Democratic and would not become an extremist country."
He said it was exactly the same choice Abbas had to make now to save HIS country.
I was so angry I began screaming at the television.
"WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? DO YOU EVEN REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING??? JEWS MURDERING JEWS TO *SAVE* A JEWISH STATE??? HOW DARE YOU!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!"
So I want to say it loud and clear, M. Gellman. You are no Rabbi. You are no Jew. You are a leftist, self-hating mouthpiece, no better than Shimon Peres and/or Yossi Beilin who each sold their souls to Amalek for shekels I wish they would choke on, (or Rabin who can't choke anymore.) and called it The Oslo Peace Accord.
There was no justification for it and they should be begging HaShem and all of Zion for forgiveness for the Blood we have shed for their obscenity, but I will never forgive them, M. Gellman, and I will never forgive Ben Gurion The Altalena, and I will never forgive YOU for justifying it.
Menachim Begin was aboard that ship, Gellman. There were no enemies of the *state* on board that ship, Gellman. And I despise you in my eyes and in my ears for what you said to a national and international audience comparing the brave souls aboard that ship to Islamic Terrorist pigs who blow up men, women, and babies and children in their beds.Cry peace, you fool, but who is it you cry for? When will you shed tears for heroes instead of comparing them to brutal murderers? Abbas, for instance?
ISRAELI CIVIL RIGHTS GROUP ACCUSES ABU MAZEN OF HAVING FUNDED 1972 MUNICH OLYMPIC MASSACRE, CALLS FOR PROBE OF PALESTINIAN PM's ROLE
Letter to German and American Leaders Alleges that New P.A. Prime Minister Financed "Black September" Terror Attack Which Killed 11 Athletes including U.S. Citizen
The Israeli civil rights group Shurat Hadin has announced a campaign to convince U.S. and German law enforcement agencies to open an investigationinto the role of newly-appointed Palestinian Authority Prime Minister AbuMazen in the massacre of eleven Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic Gamesin Munich, Germany.On September 5, 1972, a squad of heavily armed Palestinian terrorists attacked the dormitories housing the Israeli Olympic team and murdered acoach and weight-lifter David Berger, who was an American citizen. The terrorists then took nine Israeli athletes hostage. While the terrorists and their hostages were transported to the airport, the German police botched arescue attempt and all nine of the athletes were murdered.
The director of Shurat Hadin, attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, sent letters this week to U.S. President George W. Bush and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder containing new information indicating that that Abu Mazen (whose given name is Mahmoud Abbas) provided financing to the PLO's Black September terrorist group, in order to carry out the notorious terrorist attack at the 1972 Olympic Games. While recent newsmedia profiles of Abu Mazen have accentuated the Palestinian leader's alleged "terrorism-free" personal history, the Shurat Hadin charges that in 1972, Abu Mazen, then a high ranking PLO official, provided financing for the terrorist attacks being perpetrated by Yassir Arafat's PLO faction Fatah under the nom de guerre Black September. Shurat Hadin is basing its information on published statements by the terrorist who masterminded the the Munich attack, Mohammed Daoud Oudeh ("Abu Daoud"). In his French-language autobiography," Palestine: From Jerusalem to Munich," Abu Daoud describes the role of Abu Mazen in providing the funds to carry out the Black September Olympic attack. Furthermore, in an interview with journalist Don Yaeger of Sports Illustrated Magazine in August 2002, Abu Daoud reiterated his charges that Abu Mazen supplied the money for the deadly attack. In his memoir Abu Daoud states: "After Oslo in 1993, Abu Mazen went to the White House Rose Garden for a photo op with Arafat, President Bill Clinton and Israel's Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. "Do you think that ... would have been possible if the Israelis had known that Abu Mazen was the financier of our operation?" Abu Daoud writes. "I doubt it."
I happen to believe that this meeting would have taken place regardless of whoever in Rabin's Cabinet knew what. Peres and Rabin were not known for choosing their *partners* wisely. Peres and Left Labour are STILL trying to throw Israel to the desert vultures. They will try until they die...or Israel dies. Today, the Bush Administration seeks a Palestinian negotiating partner "uncompromised by terror," yet last year Abu Mazen met in Washington with Secretary of State Colin Powell."Abu Daoud's allegations have been confirmed by sources within the Palestinian Authority, according to Shurat Hadin.<br>
Attorney Darshan-Leitner's letter to President Bush states: "Under your leadership the United States has declared that it will no longer maintain contacts with those tainted by terrorist pasts. It appears that the new Palestinian leader, on whom the United States and Israel are now pinning their hopes, was also involved in murderous attacks perpetrated by the PLO's Black September. If proven true, Abu Mazen's role in the brutal killing of the Israeli athletes and American citizen David Berger must preclude his involvement in the negotiations between the United States, Israel and her Arab neighbors." Both Germany and Israel still have the legal jurisdiction to prosecute those involved in the Munich Olympic killings. For More Information: (Israel) 972-8-973-3336 (US) 212-591-0073
mailto:nitsana@israellawcenter.org
Did ZIONISTS do THIS, Gellman?
Surely you remember Shalhevet Pass? Do you remember Adora, Gellman? Do you recall ever so vaguely Friday Night in Tel Aviv?
And you would compare that ---
to THIS?
THE ALTALENA AFFAIR
The Altalena, purchased by Irgun members abroad, was originally intended to reach Israel on May 15, 1948, loaded with fighters and military equipment. Weapons purchase and organizational matters took longer than expected, however, and the sailing was postponed for several weeks. Meanwhile, on June 1st, an agreement had been signed for the absorption of the Irgun into the IDF and one of the clauses stated that the Irgun had to cease all independent arms acquisition activities. Consequently, representatives of the Israel Government were informed about the ship and its sailing schedule.
The Irgun headquarters in Paris did their best to keep the Altalena's preparations for departure a secret, but it was difficult to conceal the movement of 940 fighters and the loading of a large quantity of arms and ammunition. It was feared that if the plans were discovered, attempts might be made to sabotage the Altalena at sea. For this reason, when it raised anchor on June 11th, no cable was sent to the Irgun command in Israel, for fear that it would fall into the wrong hands. These precautionary measures proved fruitless, however, and the following day Radio London reported that the Altalena had sailed from Port-de-Bouc (France) in the direction of Israel with 1,000 Jewish volunteers and a large quantity of weapons on board.
It should be recalled that the first truce had begun on June 11th. When the Irgun leaders in Israel learned through the broadcast of the embarkation of the vessel, they feared that this breach of the truce conditions (i.e. the ban on bringing military equipment and fighters into the country) would be revealed. Menahem Begin decided therefore to postpone the arrival of the ship, and the Irgun staff secretary, Zippora Levi-Kessel, sent a wireless message to the Altalena to stay put and await orders. A similar cable was sent to Shmuel Katz (member of the General Headquarters), who was then in Paris, but contact with the ship was poor and the message was not understood.
On June 15th, Begin and his comrades held a meeting with government representatives, at which Begin announced that the ship had sailed without his knowledge and that he wanted to hold consultations on how to proceed. In his diary for June 16th, Ben-Gurion wrote the following about the meeting:
Yisrael [Galili] and Skolnik [Levi Eshkol] met yesterday with Begin. Tomorrow or the next day their ship is due to arrive: 4,500 tons, bringing 800-900 men, 5,000 rifles, 250 Bren guns, 5 million bullets, 50 Bazoukas, 10 Bren carriers. Zipstein (director of Tel Aviv port) assumes that at night it will be possible to unload it all. I believe we should not endanger Tel Aviv port. They should not be sent back. They should be disembarked at an unknown shore.
Galili informed Begin of Ben-Gurion's consent to the landing of the ship, adding a request that it be done as fast as possible. Zippora Levi-Kessel then wirelessed the vessel to come in at full speed. The following day, a working meeting was held between Irgun representatives and Ministry of Defence personnel. While the Irgun proposed directing the Altalena to Tel Aviv beach, Ministry of Defence representatives claimed that the Kfar Vitkin beach was preferable, since it would be easier to evade UN observers there. The ship was therefore instructed to make for Kfar Vitkin.
Whilst there was agreement on the anchoring place of the Altalena, there were differences of opinion about the allocation of the cargo. Ben-Gurion agreed to Begin's initial request that 20% of the weapons be despatched to the Jerusalem Battalion. His second request, however, that the remainder be transferred to the IDF to equip the newly-incorporated Irgun battalions, was rejected by the Government representatives, who interpreted the request as a demand to reinforce an 'army within an army'. This was far from Begin's intention; rather, he saw it as a question of honor that the fighters enlist in the IDF fully-equipped.
The Altalena reached Kfar Vitkin in the late afternoon of Sunday, June 20th. Among the Irgun members waiting on the shore was Menahem Begin, who greeted the arrivals with great emotion. After the passengers had disembarked, members of the fishing village of Michmoret helped unload the cargo of military equipment. Concomitantly with the events at Kfar Vitkin, the government had convened in Tel Aviv for its weekly meeting. Ben-Gurion reported on the meetings which had preceded the arrival of the Altalena, and was adamant in his demand that Begin surrender and hand over of all the weapons:
We must decide whether to hand over power to Begin or to order him to cease his separate activities. If he does not do so, we will open fire! Otherwise, we must decide to disperse our own army.
The debate ended in a resolution to empower the army to use force if necessary to overcome the Irgun and to confiscate the ship and its cargo. Implementation of this decision was assigned to the Alexandroni Brigade, commanded by Dan Even (Epstein), which the following day surrounded the Kfar Vitkin area. Dan Even issued the following ultimatum:
To: M. Begin
By special order from the Chief of the General Staff of the Israel Defence Forces, I am empowered to confiscate the weapons and military materials which have arrived on the Israeli coast in the area of my jurisdiction in the name of the Israel Government. I have been authorized to demand that you hand over the weapons to me for safekeeping and to inform you that you should establish contact with the supreme command. You are required to carry out this order immediately. If you do not agree to carry out this order, I shall use all the means at my disposal in order to implement the order and to requisition the weapons which have reached shore and transfer them from private possession into the possession of the Israel government.
I wish to inform you that the entire area is surrounded by fully armed military units and armored cars, and all roads are blocked.
I hold you fully responsible for any consequences in the event of your refusal to carry out this order. The immigrants - unarmed - will be permitted to travel to the camps in accordance with your arrangements. You have ten minutes to give me your answer.
D.E.,Brigade Commander
The ultimatum, and in particular the demand for an answer within ten minutes, was insulting and unrealistic. It was made, according to Even "in order not to give the Irgun commander time for lengthy considerations and to gain the advantage of surprise." Begin refused to respond to the ultimatum, and all attempts at mediation failed. Begin's failure to respond was a blow to Even's prestige, and a clash was now inevitable. Fighting ensued and there were a number of casualties. In order to prevent further bloodshed, the Kfar Vitkin settlers initiated negotiations between Yaakov Meridor (Begin's deputy) and Dan Even, which ended in a general ceasefire and the transfer of the weapons on shore to the local IDF commander.
Begin had meanwhile boarded the Altalena, which was now heading for Tel Aviv. He hoped that it would be possible to enter into a dialogue with the Provisional Government and to unload the remaining weapons peacefully. But this was not the case. Ben-Gurion ordered Yigael Yadin (acting Chief of Staff) to concentrate large forces on the Tel Aviv beach and to take the ship by force. Heavy guns were transferred to the area and at four in the afternoon, Ben-Gurion ordered the shelling of the Altalena . One of the shells hit the ship, which began to burn. There was danger that the fire would spread to the holds which contained explosives, and the captain ordered all aboard to abandon ship. People jumped into the water, whilst their comrades on shore set out to meet them on rafts. Although the captain flew the white flag of surrender, automatic fire continued to be directed at the unarmed survivors. Begin, WHO WAS ON DECK, agreed to leave the ship only after the last of the wounded had been evacuated.
Altalena on Fire
Sixteen Irgun fighters were killed in the confrontation with the army; six were killed in the Kfar Vitkin area and ten on Tel Aviv beach. Three IDF soldiers were killed: two at Kfar Vitkin and one in Tel Aviv.
After the shelling of the Altalena, more than 200 Irgun fighters were arrested on Ben-Gurion's orders. Most of them were released several weeks later, with the exception of five senior commanders (Moshe Hason, Eliyahu Lankin, Yaakov Meridor, Bezalel Amitzur and Hillel Kook), who were detained for more than two months. (They were released, thanks to public pressure, on August 27, 1948).
Years later, on the eve of the Six Day War, in June 1967 (after Ben-Gurion had retired from political activity and Levi Eshkol was Prime Minister), Menahem Begin joined a delegation which visited Sede Boqer in order to ask David Ben-Gurion to return and accept the premiership again. After that meeting, Ben-Gurion said that if he had then known Begin as he did now, the face of history would have been different.
Well, *Rabbi*? There is a word for people like you, but I am too nice to say it. And you aren't worth the sin. If you do not respect my people, you have not earned mine. In my not so humble opinion, *extremists* are so-called *jews* defending the murders and illegal incarcerations of other JEWS!
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